ÒIf I show them how to make a chawan (teabowl), maybe my apprentices will always be only tracing my work. Maybe they will not be making works that come from their own heart and spirit. Sometimes my apprentices ask me, ÔHow do you do that?Õ Sometimes I say, ÔI donÕt know.Õ In this way I help them discover for themselves. Of course they make some failures when they try to make their works. But there is much learning by trying and failing.Ó (We can hear the echoes of MatsuyamaÕs convictions about the ultimate value of learning from failures.) ÒAnd if I tell them how, from the beginning, they will not know, forever, the things they did not learn by trying. In this way, I teach them everything that I know. If I told them all the details of Ôhow-to-doÕ, they might be successful one time. But by failing, they will have learned in a way that will cause them to be successful every time in the future. If I show them how, they know only that technique and cannot change easily. If I donÕt show them how, my apprentices have to be thinking, thinking, thinking to learn many ways of working and makingÉÉthen they can change their way of working easily, and make the works that come from their own heart and spirit.Ó